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		<title>By: Make Homemade Wine</title>
		<link>http://vinofictions.com/2009/10/19/not-a-tweet-a-squawk/#comment-10270</link>
		<author>Make Homemade Wine</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 04:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://vinofictions.com/2009/10/19/not-a-tweet-a-squawk/#comment-10270</guid>
		<description>It will be interesting to see how this all plays out.

In the end, perhaps Twitter should stick to micro-blogging, and Crushpad should stick to making wine.

Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It will be interesting to see how this all plays out.</p>
<p>In the end, perhaps Twitter should stick to micro-blogging, and Crushpad should stick to making wine.</p>
<p>Steve</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
		<link>http://vinofictions.com/2009/10/19/not-a-tweet-a-squawk/#comment-10159</link>
		<author>Thomas</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://vinofictions.com/2009/10/19/not-a-tweet-a-squawk/#comment-10159</guid>
		<description>Yeah, Fredric, 

It seems that many business people have absorbed the so-called social media world to use as an explanation for what motivates them to make a profit. Bunk!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Fredric, </p>
<p>It seems that many business people have absorbed the so-called social media world to use as an explanation for what motivates them to make a profit. Bunk!</p>
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		<title>By: fredric koeppel</title>
		<link>http://vinofictions.com/2009/10/19/not-a-tweet-a-squawk/#comment-10158</link>
		<author>fredric koeppel</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 12:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://vinofictions.com/2009/10/19/not-a-tweet-a-squawk/#comment-10158</guid>
		<description>ahem, well, after that exchange, what can i add? except to say that i am happy to eat my toast and drink my tea in the morning without harvesting the wheat or picking the leaves. as a wine writer, i do feel that it's important to visit wineries and observe the process, from vineyard to bottling line, but that doesn't mean that i have to be in the lab analyzing the chemical properties of the grapes. i suppose there's nothing intrinsically wrong with having Crushpad make a few cases of wine for a "your label here" project, but that doesn't mean that people are more "involved" in winemaking, nor does it mean that Crushpad is doing something culturally or socially significant. it's a business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ahem, well, after that exchange, what can i add? except to say that i am happy to eat my toast and drink my tea in the morning without harvesting the wheat or picking the leaves. as a wine writer, i do feel that it&#8217;s important to visit wineries and observe the process, from vineyard to bottling line, but that doesn&#8217;t mean that i have to be in the lab analyzing the chemical properties of the grapes. i suppose there&#8217;s nothing intrinsically wrong with having Crushpad make a few cases of wine for a &#8220;your label here&#8221; project, but that doesn&#8217;t mean that people are more &#8220;involved&#8221; in winemaking, nor does it mean that Crushpad is doing something culturally or socially significant. it&#8217;s a business.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
		<link>http://vinofictions.com/2009/10/19/not-a-tweet-a-squawk/#comment-9903</link>
		<author>Thomas</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://vinofictions.com/2009/10/19/not-a-tweet-a-squawk/#comment-9903</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;&#60;p&#62;Mike,&#60;/p&#62;&lt;br /&gt;
&#60;p&#62;The definition of "asinine" is "silly or dumb." It is not exactly an insult of the trashing proportion that you give it. It's just, well, silly with regard to the specific comment that was made.&#60;/p&#62;&lt;br /&gt;
&#60;p&#62;I've already told you what gets under my skin about this--repeating myself would obviously prove counter-productive. &#60;/p&#62;&lt;br /&gt;
&#60;p&#62;Check out my latest book. In it, you will find that I talk about custom crush (and Crushpad) as one way to get into the wine business. Everything--even an opinion--comes in shades, not in black and white.&#60;/p&#62;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&lt;p&gt;Mike,&lt;/p&gt;<br />
&lt;p&gt;The definition of &#8220;asinine&#8221; is &#8220;silly or dumb.&#8221; It is not exactly an insult of the trashing proportion that you give it. It&#8217;s just, well, silly with regard to the specific comment that was made.&lt;/p&gt;<br />
&lt;p&gt;I&#8217;ve already told you what gets under my skin about this&#8211;repeating myself would obviously prove counter-productive. &lt;/p&gt;<br />
&lt;p&gt;Check out my latest book. In it, you will find that I talk about custom crush (and Crushpad) as one way to get into the wine business. Everything&#8211;even an opinion&#8211;comes in shades, not in black and white.&lt;/p&gt;</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Castleman</title>
		<link>http://vinofictions.com/2009/10/19/not-a-tweet-a-squawk/#comment-9902</link>
		<author>Mike Castleman</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:18:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://vinofictions.com/2009/10/19/not-a-tweet-a-squawk/#comment-9902</guid>
		<description>You referenced "stones" and "asinine" perspectives dude...not me...

What accusations am i making other than pointing out that your description of arm chair winemakers and their social motivations is no different than pajama reporting on a businessman's motivation without interviewing him?

What's the freakin' difference? If you're going to rant and present your view of wine making and social motivation as superior or less "asinine" than the next guy...don't get caught up in your relative self importance (which is your premise it seems for dissing the arm chair wine maker and Brill)

I'm all for civil discourse and i wasn't trying to create a perferct example of irony...nonetheless...just my opinion that you are making no bones about casting aspersions on a whole community wine lovers/drinkers/makers and their social or charitable interests as if you are the arbiter of all that is right or wrong about wine and charitable intent.

Regardless of my rant...i'm talking about your self described "squawk" that disparaged an entire group as lacking "stones" and quite pointedly called a good man... asinine.

I know Brill personally...take your own advice...grow a pair, call him up and interview him and if you still feel that he is "asinine" then at least you have the basis of an informed opinion predicated on actual communication and effort.

Oh...and by the way...i'm an arm chair wine maker who, according to you, doesn't have the stones to do it the "right" way...

sigh....I thought you were about dispelling myths instead of perpetuating them?  Opinions are easy...facts are hard and at the end of the day...you are just ranting an opinion based on the compilation of your successes and failure in life business or whatever (clearly that is how all our opinions are derived)...your clear disdain for custom crush people (thus the assigned ego trip moniker) is a bit perplexing coming from someone whose blog purports to dispelling the myths and untruths about all things wine.

I'm more inclined to believe that on this particular topic that you are reinforcing stereotypes that exist in the wine business regarding the validity or purity of one's effort in creating or participation in the creation of this thing called wine which we all love.

My opnion...if you are going to trash someone...go after someone who is aligned against wine making/sales/whatever...

If this is the stuff that "sets you off" or gets under your skin...then dude...get some thicker skin...what the heck is this social effort doing that complicates your life or the wine industry?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You referenced &#8220;stones&#8221; and &#8220;asinine&#8221; perspectives dude&#8230;not me&#8230;</p>
<p>What accusations am i making other than pointing out that your description of arm chair winemakers and their social motivations is no different than pajama reporting on a businessman&#8217;s motivation without interviewing him?</p>
<p>What&#8217;s the freakin&#8217; difference? If you&#8217;re going to rant and present your view of wine making and social motivation as superior or less &#8220;asinine&#8221; than the next guy&#8230;don&#8217;t get caught up in your relative self importance (which is your premise it seems for dissing the arm chair wine maker and Brill)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m all for civil discourse and i wasn&#8217;t trying to create a perferct example of irony&#8230;nonetheless&#8230;just my opinion that you are making no bones about casting aspersions on a whole community wine lovers/drinkers/makers and their social or charitable interests as if you are the arbiter of all that is right or wrong about wine and charitable intent.</p>
<p>Regardless of my rant&#8230;i&#8217;m talking about your self described &#8220;squawk&#8221; that disparaged an entire group as lacking &#8220;stones&#8221; and quite pointedly called a good man&#8230; asinine.</p>
<p>I know Brill personally&#8230;take your own advice&#8230;grow a pair, call him up and interview him and if you still feel that he is &#8220;asinine&#8221; then at least you have the basis of an informed opinion predicated on actual communication and effort.</p>
<p>Oh&#8230;and by the way&#8230;i&#8217;m an arm chair wine maker who, according to you, doesn&#8217;t have the stones to do it the &#8220;right&#8221; way&#8230;</p>
<p>sigh&#8230;.I thought you were about dispelling myths instead of perpetuating them?  Opinions are easy&#8230;facts are hard and at the end of the day&#8230;you are just ranting an opinion based on the compilation of your successes and failure in life business or whatever (clearly that is how all our opinions are derived)&#8230;your clear disdain for custom crush people (thus the assigned ego trip moniker) is a bit perplexing coming from someone whose blog purports to dispelling the myths and untruths about all things wine.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m more inclined to believe that on this particular topic that you are reinforcing stereotypes that exist in the wine business regarding the validity or purity of one&#8217;s effort in creating or participation in the creation of this thing called wine which we all love.</p>
<p>My opnion&#8230;if you are going to trash someone&#8230;go after someone who is aligned against wine making/sales/whatever&#8230;</p>
<p>If this is the stuff that &#8220;sets you off&#8221; or gets under your skin&#8230;then dude&#8230;get some thicker skin&#8230;what the heck is this social effort doing that complicates your life or the wine industry?</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
		<link>http://vinofictions.com/2009/10/19/not-a-tweet-a-squawk/#comment-9895</link>
		<author>Thomas</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://vinofictions.com/2009/10/19/not-a-tweet-a-squawk/#comment-9895</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;Mike,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As for "stones," you should do your research before you rant accusations. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sorry if I touched a nerve, but when those who deal in vanity projects try to explain it as some sort of social ideal, I get strange pangs of distaste. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I'm willing to discuss any matter with anyone, but I think it can be done in a civil manner. Don't you?&lt;/p&gt;

I should add that your three analogies don't seem logical to me, unless you believe that watching and enjoying movies, reading, and dining at restaurants is all one needs in order to call oneself a movie maker, publisher, or chef.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,</p>
<p>As for &#8220;stones,&#8221; you should do your research before you rant accusations. </p>
<p>Sorry if I touched a nerve, but when those who deal in vanity projects try to explain it as some sort of social ideal, I get strange pangs of distaste. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m willing to discuss any matter with anyone, but I think it can be done in a civil manner. Don&#8217;t you?</p>
<p>I should add that your three analogies don&#8217;t seem logical to me, unless you believe that watching and enjoying movies, reading, and dining at restaurants is all one needs in order to call oneself a movie maker, publisher, or chef.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Castleman</title>
		<link>http://vinofictions.com/2009/10/19/not-a-tweet-a-squawk/#comment-9894</link>
		<author>Mike Castleman</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://vinofictions.com/2009/10/19/not-a-tweet-a-squawk/#comment-9894</guid>
		<description>Well...at least you admitted your bias in the first sentance.  

"Custom crush for the consumer is a business build on an ego trip."

How asinine can you get!  What a small opinion of the motivation and inspiration of anyone for any endeavor.

I guess....

....we shouldn't watch a movie if we don't have the stones to go watch real theatre.

....we shouldn't read anything on the Kindle if a printed book exists.

....we shouldn't eat a restaraunt if we don't have the "stones" to grow our own food.

....etc...etc...you get my point...

I wouldn't call your post a squawk as much as i would call it a good ole' fashioned rant...You are employing the arm chair quarterbacking as on opinion meister the same actions that you are criticizing.

...guess you shouldn't blog about someone else's reporting if you don't have the "stones" to conduct your research, interview, fact finding...oh well...i should just remind myself i'm trying to communicate with a squawker.

Oh...and how hilarious is your "small type" that warns against copyright ifringement.  After excoriating anyone who doesn't have the stones to go native as a farming winemaker...you want to warn anyone about copyright infringement as a pajama reporter who just rants about someone else's reporting.

Oh the irony...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well&#8230;at least you admitted your bias in the first sentance.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Custom crush for the consumer is a business build on an ego trip.&#8221;</p>
<p>How asinine can you get!  What a small opinion of the motivation and inspiration of anyone for any endeavor.</p>
<p>I guess&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8230;.we shouldn&#8217;t watch a movie if we don&#8217;t have the stones to go watch real theatre.</p>
<p>&#8230;.we shouldn&#8217;t read anything on the Kindle if a printed book exists.</p>
<p>&#8230;.we shouldn&#8217;t eat a restaraunt if we don&#8217;t have the &#8220;stones&#8221; to grow our own food.</p>
<p>&#8230;.etc&#8230;etc&#8230;you get my point&#8230;</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t call your post a squawk as much as i would call it a good ole&#8217; fashioned rant&#8230;You are employing the arm chair quarterbacking as on opinion meister the same actions that you are criticizing.</p>
<p>&#8230;guess you shouldn&#8217;t blog about someone else&#8217;s reporting if you don&#8217;t have the &#8220;stones&#8221; to conduct your research, interview, fact finding&#8230;oh well&#8230;i should just remind myself i&#8217;m trying to communicate with a squawker.</p>
<p>Oh&#8230;and how hilarious is your &#8220;small type&#8221; that warns against copyright ifringement.  After excoriating anyone who doesn&#8217;t have the stones to go native as a farming winemaker&#8230;you want to warn anyone about copyright infringement as a pajama reporter who just rants about someone else&#8217;s reporting.</p>
<p>Oh the irony&#8230;</p>
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